[BGB] Will the US attack Iran? (Stop Thread)

[tballou at comcast.net]

Yep, Jim, that is political.   

Mosly in the verbage of the text.   So Without futher adieu please stop the thread.

Thank you.

--Tom

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From: "Jamie O'Keefe" <jokeefe at jamesokeefe.org>
> Hi folks,
> 
> Not sure if this is considered politics or just military talk (though
> I guess it is partisan), but I thought I would forward this article
> on.  Slap me down if I have gone off topic.  :-)
> 
> Do you think he is correct that the US may attack Iran or do you think
> he is stretching the facts?  Would we use nukes?  What are other folks
> reading that present a different view?
> 
> Jamie
> 
> ZNet Commentary
> Iran: The War Begins February 03, 2007
> By John Pilger
> 
> As opposition grows in America to the failed Iraq adventure, the Bush
> administration is preparing public opinion for an attack on Iran, its
> latest target, by the spring.
> 
> The United States is planning what will be a catastrophic attack on
> Iran. For the Bush cabal, the attack will be a way of "buying time"
> for its dis aster in Iraq. In announcing what he called a "surge" of
> American troops in Iraq, George W Bush identified Iran as his real
> target. "We will interrupt the flow of support [to the insurgency in
> Iraq] from Iran and Syria," he said. "And we will seek out and destroy
> the networks providing advanced weaponry and training to our enemies
> in Iraq."
> 
> "Networks" means Iran. "There is solid evidence," said a State
> Department spokesman on 24 January, "that Iranian agents are involved
> in these networks and that they are working with individuals and
> groups in Iraq and are being sent there by the Iranian government."
> Like Bush's and Tony Blair's claim that they had irrefutable evidence
> that Saddam Hussein was deploying weapons of mass destruction, the
> "evidence" lacks all credibility. Iran has a natural affinity with the
> Shia majority of Iraq, and has been implacably opposed to al-Qaeda,
> condemning the 9/11 attacks and supporting the United States in
> Afghanistan. Syria has done the same. Investigations by the New York
> Times, the Los Angeles Times and others, including British military
> officials, have concluded that Iran is not engaged in the cross-border
> supply of weapons. General Peter Pace, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs
> of Staff, has said no such evidence exists.
> 
> As the American disaster in Iraq deepens and domestic and foreign
> opposition grows, "neo-con" fanatics such as Vice-President Dick Che-
> ney believe their opportunity to control Iran's oil will pass unless
> they act no later than the spring. For public consumption, there are
> potent myths. In concert with Israel and Washington's Zionist and
> fundamentalist Christian lobbies, the Bushites say their "strategy" is
> to end Iran's nuclear threat.
> 
> In fact, Iran possesses not a single nuclear weapon, nor has it ever
> threatened to build one; the CIA estimates that, even given the
> political will, Iran is incapable of building a nuclear weapon before
> 2017, at the earliest. Unlike Israel and the United States, Iran has
> abided by the rules of the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty, of which
> it was an original signatory, and has allowed routine inspections
> under its legal obligations - until gratuitous, punitive measures were
> added in 2003, at the behest of Washington. No report by the
> International Atomic Energy Agency has ever cited Iran for diverting
> its civilian nuclear programme to military use.
> 
> The IAEA has said that for most of the past three years its inspectors
> have been able to "go anywhere and see anything". They inspected the
> nuclear installations at Isfahan and Natanz on 10 and 12 January and
> will return on 2 to 6 February. The head of the IAEA, Mohamed
> ElBaradei, says that an attack on Iran will have "catastrophic
> consequences" and only encourage the regime to become a nuclear power.
> 
> Unlike its two nemeses, the US and Israel, Iran has attacked no other
> countries. It last went to war in 1980 when invaded by Saddam Hussein,
> who was backed and equipped by the US, which supplied chemical and
> biological weapons produced at a factory in Maryland. Unlike Israel,
> the world's fifth military power - with its thermo nuclear weapons
> aimed at Middle East targets and an unmatched record of defying UN
> resolutions, as the enforcer of the world's longest illegal occupation
> - Iran has a history of obeying international law and occupies no
> territory other than its own.
> 
> The "threat" from Iran is entirely manufactured, aided and abetted by
> familiar, compliant media language that refers to Iran's "nuclear
> ambitions", just as the vocabulary of Saddam's non-existent WMD
> arsenal became common usage. Accompanying this is a demonising that
> has become standard practice. As Edward Herman has pointed out,
> President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad "has done yeoman service in facilitating
> [this]"; yet a close examination of his notorious remark about Israel
> in October 2005 reveals how it has been distorted. According to Juan
> Cole, American professor of modern Middle East and south Asian history
> at the University of Michigan, and other Farsi language analysts,
> Ahmadinejad did not call for Israel to be "wiped off the map". He
> said: "The regime occupying Jerusalem must vanish from the page of
> time." This, says Cole, "does not imply military action or killing
> anyone at all". Ahmadinejad compared the demise of the Israeli regime
> to the dissolution of the Soviet Union. The Iranian regime is
> repressive, but its power is diffuse and exercised by the mullahs,
> with whom Ahmadinejad is often at odds. An attack would surely unite
> them.
> 
> Nuclear option
> 
> The one piece of "solid evidence" is the threat posed by the United
> States. An American naval build-up in the eastern Mediterranean has
> begun. This is almost certainly part of what the Pentagon calls
> CONPLAN 8022-02, which is the aerial bombing of Iran. In 2004,
> National Security Presidential Directive 35, entitled "Nuclear Weapons
> Deployment Authorisation", was issued. It is classified, of course,
> but the presumption has long been that NSPD 35 authorised the
> stockpiling and deployment of "tactical" nuclear weapons in the Middle
> East.
> 
> This does not mean Bush will use them against Iran, but for the first
> time since the most dangerous years of the cold war, the use of what
> were then called "limited" nuclear weapons is being discussed openly
> in Washington. What they are debating is the prospect of other
> Hiroshimas and of radioactive fallout across the Middle East and
> central Asia. Seymour Hersh disclosed in the New Yorker last year that
> American bombers "have been flying simulated nuclear weapons delivery
> missions . . . since last summer".
> 
> The well-informed Arab Times in Kuwait says that Bush will attack Iran
> before the end of April. One of Russia's most senior military
> strategists, General Leonid Ivashov, says the US will use nuclear
> munitions delivered by cruise missiles launched from the
> Mediterranean. "The war in Iraq," he wrote on 24 January, "was just
> one element in a series of steps in the process of regional
> destabilisation.
> 
> It was only a phase in getting closer to dealing with Iran and other
> countries. [When the attack on Iran begins] Israel is sure to come
> under Iranian missile strikes . . . Posing as victims, the Israelis .
> . . will suffer some tolerable damage and then the outraged US will
> destabilise Iran finally, making it look like a noble mission of
> retribution . . . Public opinion is already under pressure. There will
> be a growing anti-Iranian . . . hysteria, . . . leaks, disinformation
> et cetera . . . It . . . remain[s] unclear . . . whether the US
> Congress is going to authorise the war."
> 
> Asked about a US Senate resolution disapproving of the "surge" of US
> troops to Iraq, Vice-President Cheney said: "It won't stop us." Last
> November, a majority of the American electorate voted for the
> Democratic Party to control Congress and stop the war in Iraq.
> 
> Apart from insipid speeches of "disapproval", this has not happened
> and is unlikely to happen. Influential Democrats, such as the new
> leader of the House of Representatives, Nancy Pelosi, and the would-be
> presidential candidates Hillary Clinton and John Edwards, have
> disported themselves before the Israeli lobby. Edwards is regarded in
> his party as a "liberal". He was one of a high-level American
> contingent at a recent Israeli conference in Herzliya, where he spoke
> about "an unprecedented threat to the world and Israel [sic]. At the
> top of these threats is Iran . . . All options are on the table to
> ensure that Iran will never get a nuclear weapon." Hillary Clinton has
> said: "US policy must be unequivocal . . . We have to keep all options
> on the table." Pelosi and Howard Dean, another liberal, have
> distinguished themselves by attacking the former president Jimmy
> Carter, who oversaw the Camp David Agreement between Israel and Egypt
> and has had the gall to write a truthful book accusing Israel of
> becoming an "apartheid state". Pelosi said: "Carter does not speak for
> the Democratic Party." She is right, alas.
> 
> In Britain, Downing Street has been presented with a document entitled
> Answering the Charges by Professor Abbas Edalat, of Imperial College
> London, on behalf of others seeking to expose the disinformation on
> Iran. Blair remains silent. Apart from the usual honourable
> exceptions, parliament remains shamefully silent, too.
> 
> Can this really be happening again, less than four years after the
> invasion of Iraq, which has left some 650,000 people dead? I wrote
> virtually this same article early in 2003; for Iran now, read Iraq
> then. And is it not remarkable that North Korea has not been attacked?
> North Korea has nuclear weapons.
> 
> In numerous surveys, such as the one released on 23 January by the BBC
> World Service, "we", the majority of humanity, have made clear our
> revulsion for Bush and his vassals. As for Blair, the man is now
> politically and morally naked for all to see. So who speaks out, apart
> from Professor Edalat and his colleagues? Privileged journalists,
> scholars and artists, writers and thespians, who sometimes speak about
> "freedom of speech", are as silent as a dark West End theatre. What
> are they waiting for? The declaration of another thousand-year Reich,
> or a mushroom cloud in the Middle East, or both?
> 
> [John Pilger is a renowned author, journalist and documentary
> film-maker. A war correspondent, his writings have appear in numerous
> magazines, and newspapers.]
> 
> February 5, 2007 New Statesman (UK)
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